{"id":2751,"date":"2026-08-31T16:00:54","date_gmt":"2026-08-31T14:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johnnybrink.com\/?page_id=2751"},"modified":"2026-09-06T15:36:18","modified_gmt":"2026-09-06T13:36:18","slug":"ping-pong-sessions-bring-a-problem","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/johnnybrink.com\/da\/","title":{"rendered":"Ping-Pong Sessions: Bring a Problem"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">When a business problem doesn&#8217;t have an obvious answer, let&#8217;s think it through.<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sometimes you don&#8217;t need another answer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You need someone on the other side of the table who asks different questions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Someone who will challenge your assumptions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Someone who will ask:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>&#8220;Hang on. 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I help people see it more clearly.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The decision is still yours.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What can we talk about?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A difficult business decision.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A software project that has somehow become much more complicated than anyone intended.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A product that has accumulated seventeen perfectly reasonable features and become almost unusable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A team solving the same problem for the third time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A decision where every option seems to have an uncomfortable downside.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">An idea that doesn&#8217;t quite fit together yet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Or something completely 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\u20ac750<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Start with an email.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tell me, briefly, what you&#8217;d like to talk about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;ll reply myself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If I think I can be useful, we&#8217;ll find a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m the right person, I&#8217;ll tell you that too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No form.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No cart.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No booking funnel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No discovery-call choreography.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Just an email between two humans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Email Johnny \u2192<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">One 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